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 Post subject: Gear Shifters
 Post Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2014 6:53 pm 
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G'day Andrew, Could you please show me the way you connected all you shifter components and what I should expect to pay or make etc. Cheers Greg


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 Post subject: Re: Gear Shifters
 Post Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 1:30 pm 
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Hi Greg and everybody else wondering how the heck a gear changing mech might work.

This is the end the steering wheel attendant hangs onto -

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It uses a 2.4metre (8 foot) 'morse' cable. The most recent one I bought came from -http://www.roadtechmarine.com.au/

Theirs are half the price of the ones I have seen elsewhere but maybe Chinese rather than the normal US made device.

There are two types, but the Road Tech Marine ones are lock in style only that I could see. Others have threaded ends and nuts much like a throttle cable etc. These are easier to deal with but either way a couple of fabricated brackets is required. The possibilities are endless...

The lever itself is off a fairly decent set of 'rear sets' (fancy motorbike pegs), the standard bike gear lever will probably do but wont look as cool. The trick if there is one is to get the 'throw' at right angles to the direction of cable as per the pics. Lever pressure (and throw) will be equal in each direction (up shifts and down shifts) that way. At some point we will develop a kit of brackets and a cable for this job if it looks like too much of a pain but I have a few trickier jobs in front of me first. End of the year is about as soon as I will get to it I think.

More pics, this time of the business end. Sorry about the quality.

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Buy a cable and some of what is required will be more obvious.

Please reply here with any questions.

Thanks, Andrew.

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 Post subject: Re: Gear Shifters
 Post Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 11:01 am 
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Perfect Thanks,Think I will wait till my pipes are fitted as there seems to be a couple of options for the shifter also which way I want to change up or down forwards or back etc. I bought a 2.4 mtr Teleflex cable for $45 at my local Boat Place


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 Post subject: Re: Gear Shifters
 Post Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2016 3:32 pm 
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Here is a bit of info on fitting our factory supplied gear shifting arrangements.

The lever mounting plate has a bunch of 10mm holes in it so you can to some degree customise the set up to suit your own preferred ergonomics.

The lever also has a few rod end mounting holes to allow you to change the angle and length of 'throw'.

Mount the lever and plate where you need it. Then judge from that where to mount the cable holding bracket so you get equal throw in each direction.

Engine end details coming soon (these vary from donor choice to donor choice).

Speaking of which a Bandit 1250 or Firestorm donor set up would actually have the cable going forward and looping around and heading aft as they shift in the opposite direction although if you are making your own gear changing mech there are many ways to tackle the issue.

Don't run a morse cable through too tight or too many bends either. It tightens up the cable and exacerbates the backlash.

You can of course also space the lever inboard from the lever mounting plate. The knob pictured attaches with a short M12 cap screw.

The layout I'm suggesting for the underseat cable run (ZX14, Busa, BBXX) is pictured below as well.

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 Post subject: Re: Gear Shifters
 Post Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2016 4:06 pm 
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Andrew is there any reason why the shifter has to be on the right hand side of the driver. Anything in the ADR's that stipulate this?

I like the idea of a narrow shifter mounted on the floor between the driver and passenger. It only needs to go back and forward after all.

That also matches the layout us Aussies are used to with our cars (ie left handed shift).

The only difficulty may be in getting a morse cable short enough.

Any thoughts?
Mal


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 Post subject: Re: Gear Shifters
 Post Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 1:12 pm 
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Entirely up to the individual Mal. I chose to put it on the right for a few reasons -

1) You can change gears while your arm is relaxing on the top of the side pod.
2) Its out of the way when 'boarding' from the passenger side and sliding your bum into position in the drivers seat.
3) Its easier to mount there.
4) Its cool! - ie all proper racing cars tend to have it on the right.

It takes minutes to get used to if that. BUT in theory either the indicator or gearshifter is in the wrong position as of course both have to be operated with your right hand.

For me I'm happy with the RHS position and won't change, even for the more 'car like' larger Tri Pod 2 mainly due to the potential to trip over it while getting in or out of the car.

It has been done here in the middle in "Dons Rocket". Don of course has made many other "modifications" to improve my shonky design. I attach some pics for your adjudication.

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 Post subject: Re: Gear Shifters
 Post Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 1:19 pm 
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Pics below of the way at least a BBXX bracket attaches to the sump (prototype bracket shown) and mods required to gear linkage etc.

Pics coming of Bandit 1250 version soon. As previously mentioned Bandit cable runs forward so different front mount for cable as well.

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 Post subject: Re: Gear Shifters
 Post Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 5:31 pm 
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BANDIT 1250 FITMENT.

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Words to follow. Feel free to ask any questions.

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 Post subject: Re: Gear Shifters
 Post Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 11:31 am 
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Route of cable across floor


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